Mike Nolan
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I don't remember a separate King Arthur recipe, the one I use is the one that was on the cardboard sheet with the pan. If there was a second recipe sheet, I've either thrown it away or have it stuck in a stack of recipes I haven't made. How different was it?
The Serious Eats recipe I give a C, it has some of the characteristics of good Italian Beef but is missing something, I'll have to play with it, maybe tweaking the spices or cooking the pre-sliced meat in the jus longer. The meat itself was OK, it had the right amount of 'bite' to it, so it was sliced to the right thickness, and I nailed the roasted peppers. A different beef stock recipe might help too. Mine has a lot of tomatoes in it.
The Gonnella-like roll recipe was disappointing, I give it a D+, I'd go lower but I think I contributed to the issues by over-proofing it. It fell apart when it got wet, but it looked and tasted a lot like a sourdough bread, and IMHO sourdoughs tend to fall apart when wet. I could see using this recipe for other things, though, it has a nice caramelized taste to it.
I may try the original King Arthur recipe that came with the sandwich roll pan, I haven't made it in a while but as I recall it was pretty good, made fairly decent pizza bread, too.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.I used this recipe it made 4 rolls:
Gonnella-style rolls for Italian Beef
The recipe didn't specify what kind of flour, so I used KA bread flour. I wound up adding quite a bit more flour than the recipe called for to get a dough that wasn't really sticky. I used the Chicago Metallic sandwich roll pan that King Arthur used to sell to bake them. I should have greased the pan, but I was able to get the rolls off without too much damage to them.
I'm going to make the Italian Beef tonight, with some roasted sweet peppers, we'll see how the rolls stand up to being soaked in broth.
Here's the Serious Eats article on making Italian Beef using meat from the deli:
Italian Beef at homeSounds like almost as much work as cutting a rutabaga. If I ever have to do that again, I'm going to use a bandsaw.
We had artichokes for dinner tonight, plus a little potato salad.
Well, the rolls stuck to the pan, which I didn't grease, and I think I over-proofed them a little, too, as they're not very tall, but they're tasty and I think I'll try them with the Italian Beef tomorrow, to see if they hold up when soggy.
I've concluded the fancy fluting on the edges is largely a waste of time and pie crust, in part because I'm terrible at it, but also because far too often most of that edge gets left on the plate. So I've been making simpler edges of late, and it makes the pie look better/cleaner, if simpler, too. (I still like doing a lattice crust for a cherry pie, though my wife prefers a non-latticed top.)
We used to live about a block from a school that had the neighborhood air raid siren. Every Wednesday when they'd do the 10:30AM test, the neighbor's dog would howl until several minutes after the sirens stopped.
In our current house, unless the windows are open I don't even hear the sirens on Wednesday.
At one point last night I told my wife I thought Kansas was winning the battle against South Dakota for control of Nebraska. Tonight the fireworks aren't quite as vigorous.
A google search for 'tobacco netting' comes up with a few possibilities for where to get some.
My instructor at the SFBI pastry school probably thought I was never going to get a good pie crust made, and I do admit it took me 3-4 tries after I got back home to get the knack, but once you've got it down, good tasting pie crusts aren't difficult.
One of the reasons I developed the pie dough chart was so I could size the pie dough correctly, having too much dough means a crust that is too thick or a lot of wasted dough, having too little dough means working it harder to stretch it to fit the pan, and that toughens the crust.
I've tried RLB's cream cheese pie dough a couple of times, while I think I'm making it correctly, we prefer the all-butter one I learned at SFBI.
As I suspected the video is way too big to post, but here's a shot of the first wave of the parade.
Our little two-block long street has been doing this parade for a few years now, getting participants from the whole neighborhood. They skipped 2020 because of the pandemic, of course, but this year's turnout may have been the largest one so far.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.I made some potato salad using my mother's recipe, for the 4th. Our street is having its 4th of July bike parade tomorrow, I'll see if I can get some good pictures and post them.
Happy 4th of July, everybody.
I managed to get in enough time over two mornings and one evening to get all the big weeds pulled in the tomato patch, hopefully I can keep it clean with shorter stints. Hot is the order of the day here for the next week or two.
I've got tomatoes on quite a few of my plants, the 4th of July ones have nice clusters of them, but they're not starting to ripen yet, so they won't make their eponymous target.
The cherry tomatoes I planted indoors in the Aerogarden are starting to bloom, haven't seen any fruit that has set yet. But I may have cherry tomatoes by the end of July.
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