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September 16, 2016 at 10:03 pm in reply to: Where are Cass (Kid Pizza) and Some Other Members? #4753
Luvpyrpom--The unhelpful answer you received is typical from the people answering baking questions for KAF these days. It was something that I noticed with KAF about a year ago. There seems to be a culture change there.
Cwcdesign--I'm curious. Is the Facebook group mostly social or mostly about baking?
I heard from Cass, and posted his helpful suggestion for those Norwegian Coffee Buns.
I've got one or two recipes for a pumpkin based pasta. I keep thinking that I'll get to it. I have a pasta attachment for my Cuisinart Food Processor (both given to me by my mother), but I've never gotten around to trying out the pasta attachment. It may be a project for after I retire next summer.
I heard from Cass (Kid Pizza) about this recipe. I'll cut and paste here what he wrote:
Good Morning Marliss.
I hope this note finds you well. Yes Marliss, your recipe has too much Hydration in it. About 85% worth. This is my correction for you:
Assume 6 1/4 cups of flour (29, oz), this is 69% hydration. Use 2,1/2 cups of water.
Marliss, you really do not need to proof the package yeast. This procedure was done many years ago because QC wasn't up to like it is today. There really ever is a failure in today's yeast manu.
Sooo, just add the yeast into the mix like you have done many times before with instant yeast. Use room temp water NOT HOT WATER.. Yes Marliss you can reduce the yeast slightly more to 3/8ths oz (3 tsp worth of package yeast or 3.5 tsp of instant yeast if you like.
Marliss the reason there is a lot of yeast in this recipe is because THERE IS A LOT OF SUGAR in IT !!! You can reduce it somewhat like 1 TBLS worth after measuring out 1/2 cup (3.5,oz)
I have other suggestions if you like such as reducing the sugar further & adding honey, etc. post back if interested with your next results.
Enjoy the day Marliss.
~CASS.I'm glad to hear that I'm on the right track! I will try the recipe again--perhaps not for a few weeks--and I will post back the results. I may also try the high sugar yeast (and use just 2 tsp. of it), since I have it in the freezer and might as well use it.
I just love eating my way to the crust end of a piece of pie. That would not occur with a center piece of a casserole pie.
A slab pie strikes me as not as thick as the one in the picture with the article. A slab pie would include a greater proportion of crust to filling than the one baked in a deeper casserole dish. I could see a slab pie baked in a rectangular tart pan or a pizza pan.
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This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by
BakerAunt.
Oops! I goofed. But at least it got people talking!
In the meantime, I decided to google Hveteboller. Of course, almost all the entries are in Norwegian, but I did find this one:
http://thenewartofbaking.blogspot.com/2013/02/hveteboller-norwegian-cardamom-sweet.html
It is close to the one I made (mine made double the amount). The big difference is in the liquid. 2 3/4 cups, as opposed to 3 cups, and it used half bread flour and half AP. She also mixes by hand, and did a short first rise.
Mine clearly had too much liquid, so I will cut back next time.
Luvpyrpom--I just saw these tips on macaroons. Maybe they will help you.
I'll see what I can find on YouTube. I don't want to use bread flour, since she says that it will make the pastry less tender, and cautions against using it unless the recipe specifies to do so.
BTW--the buns were definitely superior on the first day. There was a drop off in texture and taste when I ate most of the last two on Monday morning. (My husband also sampled a piece and agreed.)
Beatrice Ojakangas does have a WordPress site, so I have posted a question there. The last post was a couple of years ago, so I do not know if there will be an answer, but I will let everyone know if there is.
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This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by
BakerAunt.
I would leave the cake flour at 2 cups and see what happens with the other changes. If you change too much at once, you won't know what actually made the difference.
I was just thinking of Livingwell this morning when my husband and I followed the sacred baking oath to do QC (Quality Control) before I took those buns to church. I miss her comments, and how her questions helped us to learn more about baking.
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This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by
BakerAunt.
Cwcdesign, here is what I might do with the recipe.
1. Use extra-fine sugar. The weight is the same as regular sugar. You can either buy it in the store, or process it in a blender or food processor. (If you do the latter, be sure the lid is tight: one of my friends had an issue where it came off, and she had sugar--then ants--all over her kitchen. It's easier to get extra-fine sugar creamed into butter. I use it for all my cakes, and my observation is that it creates a more tender crumb.
2. After creaming in the sugar, I would mix in the honey and the oil. I'd add each egg separately and beat after each one--making sure that I got all the egg white out of the shell. (I use that handy tool--a finger!).
3. I agree that the baking powder and salt amounts seem to be the inverse of what is required. I'm basing that on comparison with a Swedish Rum Bundt Cake that I bake. It also has 4 eggs, but 1 3/4 cups sugar, grated lemon peel, and 2 1/2 cups flour, 2/3 cups milk, and 2/3 cups unsalted butter. It calls for 1 3/4 tsp. baking powder but no salt. (I'll have to add about 1/4 to 1/2 tsp.--that recipe must have once used salted butter.)
4. That bundt cake does bake at 350F for 50-60 min., and I have a note that it is done at 50 minutes. The recipe calls for a 12-cup Bundt pan.
I hope these comments are helpful. Keep us posted!
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This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by
BakerAunt. Reason: corrected by removing repeated phrases
And this week's "sale" price for butter is $3.19 per pound.
Thanks for the tip, Sarah. I've signed up for their e-mails.
Penzey's 16 ox regular vanilla is currently $39.95 and will increase to $49,95
Penzey's double-strength 16 oz. is currently $59.95 and will increase to $79.95.
16 oz. of the KAF brand vanilla is $44.95.
The 32 oz. Madagascar Vanilla at KAF is $74.95.
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This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by
BakerAunt.
Maybe there should be a "Cost of Baking" Index?
I'm still working my way through a quart of vanilla I bought a while back from KAF when there was a sale. I've moved the last of it to three 8 oz. bottles, so I'm set for now. I also appear, unwittingly, to have stocked up on Double Dutch Cocoa. Coffee, alas, cannot be stored so long, and I'm firmly addicted to Peet's French Roast and must mail order it. Last Christmas time, I stocked up on regular flour and sugar, and I am hoping for more sales in late November and December, when I will run out.
I don't understand why butter is so expensive. Early this summer, I thought myself lucky to hit a sale where it was $2.50 a pound. Now the sale price of $2.99 looks good. Sigh.
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This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by
BakerAunt.
Mike--the recipe I tried is not that messy. It is hard to incorporate the dissolve baking soda (in 1 Tbs. of water) into the dough, but the dough whisk helps. To keep it from sticking to my hands, as I was dividing it and putting it into the pans, I put a little water on my hands.
I have Beard's bread book somewhere around here. I'll have to look at the recipe and compare it, but right now, I will stick with Bernard Clayton's recipe.
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