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Italian Cook--another thought. Is it possible to drain the cranberry-apple-orange relish to remove some of the liquid? Perhaps use a strainer or cheesecloth?
Increasing the flour by perhaps 2 Tbs. to 1/4 cup might also help. Do you know how the flour was originally measured? A lot of older recipes had people scoop the flour with the cup, which would result in more flour being used. I did it that way for years. I think that I only started fluffing it with a scoop and using the scoop to put it into the measuring cup after I began ordering from KAF, and they made a point of saying it should be measured that way or weighed.
Italian Cook--Perhaps the bread needed to bake longer? Maybe the cranberry orange relish was wetter than the cranberry-orange relish that came in a jar in the 1970s?
The nice people at Ocean Spray wrote back to me:
Thank you for taking the time to contact us. We love to hear from people who are as into cranberries as much as we are. When you purchase Ocean Spray® products you are supporting the more than 700 family farms which own the brand. Ocean Spray takes great pride in manufacturing premium products.
You are correct, we did make the CRANORANGE® cranberry orange relish in a glass jar in the 70's. We are sad to report we are no longer producing CRANORANGE® cranberry orange relish. Although we considered it to be a very fine product, consumer demand was not what we had anticipated. Consequently, a marketing decision was made to stop production. We know it’s frustrating when one of your favorite products are discontinued and we have shared your feedback with our marketing department.
OK, I know it was in a glass jar. This would have been in the 1970s in southern California. I keep trying to find some verification on the internet, but so far, I've not been able to do so. It had a jam-like consistency and had to be refrigerated once opened.
I did find this cooked one:
I decided to go to the source and ask Ocean Spray on its website. I'll report back what I hear.
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Cwcdesign--yes, it did come in a jar. I would eat it on toast after Thanksgiving. My mom never made a homemade cranberry sauce. It was always out of a can, and then the jar of cranberry-orange relish joined the yearly tradition.
I wish that KAF would give an optimal temperature. I have an infrared thermometer that I can use to check pan temperature. I note that the pan gets hotter the longer I'm using it. Even low on my gas stove can get a bit too hot, so I find myself lifting up the various griddles to cool them a bit. When I do English muffins, it is a bit of a juggling act with cast iron pans or Le Creuset griddle.
Thank you, Italian Cook for reporting back. I'll make a note on the recipe for when I try it. I'm glad your husband enjoyed the Welsh Cakes. Sometimes it just takes the right version of a recipe.
My cranberry-orange recipe came from Jane Brody's Good Food Cookbook. It seems to me that the jarred sauce has definitely been cooked--would be necessary for canning it. As I recall, it was somewhat like a jam.
Ah, I see. I had not thought about the heat issue.
I am not sure that you can overprocess at the egg adding stage. Overprocessing is much more an issue at the adding flour stage. My cakes have improved now that I add one egg at a time and beat it in until fully incorporated. (I realized from a KAF article that I needed to mix until there was no trace of the egg before adding another.) That said, I've not had call to add eight eggs. My highest number has been 5.
Italian Cook--I loved that Ocean Spray Cranberry-Orange relish. I have a recipe for a cranberry-orange relish that I used to make, before I found the one with dried cherries an cardamom which is now the one I make. (No one else in the family likes it, so it is all mine!) It's not the same as the Ocean Spray, however, as it is not cooked and uses raw cranberries and orange. I wonder if your could cook cranberries and add sugar and orange?
October 2, 2016 at 12:40 pm in reply to: Did You Cook Anything Interesting the Week of September 25, 2016? #4931Italian Cook--I usually don't freeze soup with pasta in it, so I do not know how it will work out. If I have a soup that uses pasta, and I want to freeze, I often freeze a quantity without the pasta in it, then add it when I reheat the soup. Of course, that does not work well for single servings.
Cwcdesign--that pasta dish sounds wonderful, but I know my husband would not eat it. Sigh.
I raise my coffee cup along with you, S. Wirth. I had Peets' French Roast this morning, and I will have it again as I gear up for a graduate seminar this afternoon.
I agee with Mike that losing Mary, Mel, and Sue will hurt the program. I wonder if they are planning on bringing in another co-host, or if Paul Hollywood is supposed to carry it alone. I have one of his cookbooks, and right before the Baking Circle was closed, I blogged about the problems I had with one of the recipes. I would have to change it around to get it to work, and there are so many other recipes out there that do work, I have not bothered with it or any of his other recipes.
The cinnamon rolls met with universal acclaim at my husband's office, and he was told many times to thank me for baking them. Two were left over, so I brought them home, and I ate one with my coffee after lunch. Oh, my, oh my! These are incredibly delicious. As the recipe write-up states, they are like sticky buns with no nuts, and they do not have to be dumped out of the pan, since the glaze is added on top after they bake. They have a slight caramel taste to them, and they are not too sweet with the glaze.
I did change the mixing instructions. I'm puzzled by the ones with the recipe, which seem to make it harder than it need be and to mix in an odd order, as well as knead by hand when one has a perfectly good stand mixer used in the first mix.
After I proofed the yeast, I added the sugar, milk, butter, and eggs. I then mixed it to incorporate the eggs. I then added the 2 1/4 cups flour (I substituted in 1 cup white whole wheat and added 1 Tbs. flax meal), and mixed with the paddle until fully incorporated. I then let it rest for 10 minutes. I switched to the bread spiral, added the rest of the flour, mixed with the salt, and incorporated it, before kneading for 4 minutes on 3 (Cuisinart stand mixer--3 is my usual kneading speed). I initially held back 1/2 cup of the flour, but after adding 1/4 cup of that, I concluded that it needed all of it. Rising times were as stated in the recipe. I baked it for 22 minutes.
Note: I could not spread the filling on the dough without tearing the dough, so I dropped clumps of it all around, and spread it with my fingers as best I could. I only left a "one-inch border" at the long side toward which I rolled up the dough. On the other three sides, I spread it right to the end. To cut the rolls, I used a piece of my handy-dandy non-flavored dental floss.
One more note: the recipe equates a package of yeast with 2 1/2 tsp. However, I've always seen it as 2 1/4 tsp., so that is what I used, and it worked fine.
Now I just need an occasion with enough people attending to bake these again!
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