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I still have the Panasonic microwave that I bought at Best Buy about 14 years ago. My only complaint is that the light burned out (always was on when the door is opened--and my husband kept leaving it opened) and it cannot be replaced without a service person, which would likely be more expensive than a new microwave.
There is an Abt in a suburb of Chicago where our friends bought their washing machine. They spoke highly of the store, and delivery to our area is free. My concern is having to deal with the stove manufacturer if anything were to go wrong, and the reviews for F&P suggest that things go wrong quickly.
Good to see you posting again, Rottiedogs. Viking seems to be one of those brands that was excellent but has slipped over the past couple of years with an ownership change, although my understanding is that now a new company owns it.
The Fisher and Paykel 30-inch dual fuel is about $2000 less than the DCS, which puts it in the medium price range for dual fuel ranges. I find it odd that the 36-inch model has the same sized oven as the 30-inch model. Those ovens are 3.6 cubic feet as opposed to 4.0 for the DCS. However, I cannot find any interior measurements for the F&P.
Abt, outside of Chicago, has the F&P on its website, so I assume it is a dealer. With certain models, through June 30, they are giving away a free ventilating hood (looks rather industrial). If parts have to come from New Zealand, however, that could take a while and become expensive rather quickly.
The DCS dealer is in South Bend, so that would be closer.
Note: The few reviews on F&P that I could find were not positive.
Hi, Navlys,
See if this is the one. Cwalde mentions that Jozy sent it.I was able to find some additional information at a dealer site. Apparently, the oven dial glows white while the oven is preheating, then it turns to orange when it is at temperature. On the self-clean cycle, it is red. They have a video of it here:
I do not know if that limits where the oven can be set. That is not an issue for me, but my husband grumbles if he cannot set it to 340 for some of his roasting.
Cass's information about the Thor brand is fascinating. I wonder where the name has been hiding all these years, or if it has been resurrected by another company. I note that Home Depot claims to sell the Thor Kitchen, but it must be ordered. When I looked at the Thor Kitchen home page, they did not have a lot of distributers, and the customer care page appears to be under construction. All of that does not fill me with hope.
There is a lot of "merging" stuff in the oven market.
Thermador is owned by B/S/H, which I think is Bosch
JennAir is owned by Whirlpool
Viking has a new owner (do not recall the name)
Wolf is with Sub ZeroAt any rate, my head is spinning.
I got a look at the DCS. I cannot quite tell how the oven controls work. I note that there are knobs, but the pictures do not show how the oven displays temperature, etc.
It's a nice looking range, but it would definitely be a splurge.
I'll check out the Thor.
Two people reviewing the ThorKitchen commented that the knobs and front get hot when the oven is on.
I do like the idea of not having to deal with electronic pads.
The unsealed burners would be a deal breaker for me. Sealed burners are one of the features I love about my Thermador. My husband and I also are not dishwasher people. We had the broken one in this house removed and replaced with a cabinet, and we will remove the nonworking one in Indiana and not replace it when we gut the kitchen.
We are planning to take the Amana refrigerator with us (bought in 2001) and put it in the apartment kitchen. (The previous owners of our house built an apartment over the garage, complete with kitchen. In addition to giving guests their own space, I plan to use it for some baking projects.) I will need to decide on a refrigerator for the new kitchen in the house. I want one with the freezer on bottom (like the Amana), and possibly with French doors. I do not want an automatic icemaker or a water and ice dispenser in the door (we have well water, and that brings up filter issues).
I've not even begun researching refrigerators yet. Sigh.
I'm happy with our Maytag washer, but just because a company makes a good washing machine does not mean it makes a good stove.
I will look at DCR, but so far the Frigidaire dual fuel is coming out ahead. (My husband says to get the range with which I will be happy--as long as the burners are gas, which we both prefer.) I also will look at separate gas cooktops and electric ovens.
When I bought the Thermador, I thought it would be my stove for life. It never occurred to me that after 10 years there would not be parts for it. Ten years seems to be the life of the electrical panel. I had it replaced a few years after I bought the range, when a lightening strike (not at my house) created a surge that fried the panel. That new one lasted exactly ten years--several years beyond when the company stopped manufacturing the panels for this range. CoreCentric in Illinois repaired the panel, or I would have been left with a stove top that worked and no oven.
