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  • #13911
    BakerAunt
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      I've been using an adaptation of my Buttermilk Pie Crust for all my pies. I'm not sure if I've changed the recipe that I posted. It works well for blind baking, and I've used it for pumpkin pie.

      For a single crust, I bake in an Emile Henry 9-inch ceramic pie plate (not one with a ruffled edge--what the heck were they thinking?!), which is a deep dish, I use 1 2/3 cup pastry flour and 1/3 cup whole wheat pastry flour, 1 1/2 Tbs. sugar, 1/2 tsp. salt, 2/3 cup cold butter, and 1/3 cup buttermilk. I mix the dry ingredients, and cut in the butter. I then add the liquid all at once, and use a pastry fork, then a bowl scraper to bring it together.

      I used to make the recipe with half butter and half Crisco. Then, one day, I was distracted by my husband and accidentally used all butter for the fat. The crust was wonderful, and I've never looked back.

      After the dough has a couple of hours in the refrigerator, I roll it out to 12-inches. I roll on parchment paper, with a wide piece of saran over the top, and I use pie wands. To transfer it to the pie plate, I flip it over and peel off the parchment, put my hand under the saran, and move the dough to the pie plate and carefully fit it in (saran still on top). I carefully pull off the saran once the dough is fit into the pie dish, and I fold over the edges around the rim and make a fluted edge. (The extra dough will help it hold its shape. I set the plastic over it, then refrigerate it for 40 minutes, and then for 20 minutes, I freeze it--if I have a freezer in which it will fit. Sometimes if it is cold enough outside, it sits there!

      I line the pie shell with a double thickness of foil, or I have some commercial coffee filters, and I use one of those. I fill with beans--ideally, fill the entire pie shell. (Beans can be used over and over again.) DO NOT USE CERAMIC OR METAL PIE WEIGHTS. These get too hot. I bake for 21 minutes at 375F on the middle rack, or until the dough sides are light, dry, and firm. I then remove the foil, carefully, and return the pie shell to the oven.

      If the intended filling for the pie requires no baking, bake another 15-20 min. If the filling will need 20 minutes or less, bake an additional 7 minutes. If the filling will need more than 20 minutes, bake for 14 minutes.

      OK, that is what I do. The article that Mike posted, with a suggested baking temperature of 350F is interesting, and if someone tries it, I'd be interested in knowing how it works.

      I do want to bake a pumpkin pie this year, and right not, I'd love to do an apple one. However, I'm dismayed when I calculate the saturated fat in the crust, and with only my husband and I to eat it, it's a problem. I thought about trying an oil crust, but I don't think that I would find it satisfactory.

      There is a chance that we may be "under construction" by Thanksgiving. Our new contractor says he is on schedule to start in later November. We meet with him later this week to see when that might be. We have a smaller, functioning kitchen in the apt. over the garage, where we will be living during the renovation, so we will have Thanksgiving dinner, but it will be on the everyday dishes.

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      #13905
      Mike Nolan
      Keymaster

        I don't specifically remember offering that advice, I think the most important part of blind baking is to make sure you have plenty of pie beans.

        I'm not sure what we're doing for either Thanksgiving or Christmas this year, we've told the kids that we're not making the trip to Pittsburgh this year. My younger son, the one who lives in CA, has Zeldathon (an online fundraiser) in Erie PA right after Christmas. My older son was talking about possibly coming here for Thanksgiving, but I haven't heard if that's a go or not. We may invite my wife's sister to come over for Christmas dinner.

        #13903
        aaronatthedoublef
        Participant

          It's pie time for me and as much as I'd planned on making test pies before Thanksgiving it just didn't happen.

          Any way... I think I may try to change the fat in my pie dough this year - sub out some butter for shortening and sub out some of the heavy cream for water.

          I remember Mike's advice not to blind bake my crust on sheet pans (at least I think that was Mike) but any recommendations for pie pans? I have Pyrex and ceramic and metal tins are not too expensive.

          I'm trying to avoid last year's shrinkage.

          Thanks

          #13898
          BakerAunt
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            #13890
            navlys
            Participant

              Swift baby back ribs were on sale so..I pulled of the sheath and made a rub with various Penzeys Spices and brown sugar. I threw some apple and onion slices and a little wine in the bottom of crockpot and cooked the rubbed ribs for 5 1/2 hrs on low. ( my old crockpot would have taken 8 hrs. Oh and I covered ribs in bbq sauce for the last hour.

              #13879
              BakerAunt
              Participant

                On Friday afternoon, I baked the KAF recipe, Cinnamon-Apple Flatbread, a new recipe for me, using my sourdough starter. I made some changes. For the bread, I reduced the yeast from 2 tsp. to 1 ¼ tsp., and that was plenty. I reduced the salt from 1 ½ tsp. to 1 tsp. I substituted 2 cups of white whole wheat flour (I use the Bob’s Red Mill Ivory) for that much regular flour, and I added 2 Tbs. flax meal. I used Winesaps and Jonathans for the filling/topping. I used all the juices, rather than only ¼ cup, but I did reduce it down a bit. (Time constraints prevented my doing it longer.) I do not buy the KAF Baker’s Cinnamon filling, so I made my own, using 3 Tbs. sugar, 2 tsp. cinnamon, AND 2 Tbs. regular Clearjel. My husband and I had a slice, warm from the oven, with some frozen vanilla yogurt on the side. Delicious.

                Note: The Clearjel that I added is of upmost importance. A couple of years ago, I made pecan sticky buns from a KAF recipe and just used brown sugar and cinnamon, as I see no need to buy KAF’s Cinnamon Filling. Well, the resulting syrup boiled up in the pans and out of them. When I discussed it on this site (or was it still the Baking Circle?), and we were all trying to figure it out, S. Wirth astutely observed that Clearjel is an ingredient in the KAF Cinnamon Filling. When I read the comments on the flatbread, a couple of people mentioned having had a similar issue, so, I mixed it into the cinnamon sugar, before mixing it with the liquid in which the apples had cooked. Perfect! And once again, S. Wirth saves the day!

                I also made up a single batch of dough for Lower-Fat Whole Wheat Sourdough Ranch Crackers. It’s an experiment to see if I can create another cracker flavor that I like. I’ll bake those next week.

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                #13878
                BakerAunt
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                  I made applesauce on Friday afternoon, using mostly Melrose and Empire apples, and a couple of Winesaps. It made a lovely, pinkish applesauce that did not need much sugar. I don’t know that I would use Winesaps again, as it helps to have an apple that doesn’t hold its shape for applesauce. The flavor is excellent. I froze most of it for Thanksgiving (which is less than three weeks away).

                  #13875
                  RiversideLen
                  Participant

                    I made a pumpkin pie today. The Libby recipe but seasoned my way (the right way, lol), just cinnamon and vanilla. And this time I did not forget to put the sugar in, I swear!

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                    #13869
                    BakerAunt
                    Participant

                      Congratulations on your perfect pie, Chocomouse!

                      On Thursday afternoon, I baked my Lower-Fat Sourdough Whole Wheat Cheese Crackers from the dough I mixed last week. It's the doubled recipe (without the Lower-fat addition) that I posted here, except that I substitute 1/3 cup canola oil for the butter, and I add 2 Tbs. special dried milk with the flour mixture.

                      #13859
                      chocomouse
                      Participant

                        I just took an apple pie out of the oven, and I'm thrilled! It was the easiest pie crust ever - to make, to roll out, to move from the counter to pie plate without falling into pieces! It didn't crack, the edges were kind of round and smooth, not jagged. I could see the big chunks of butter in the dough. I used the KAF Classic double crust recipe (the one that uses both Crisco and butter), which I have tried many times before, but this time it just all came together perfectly! I mixed the dough in the food processor yesterday, wrapped it in plastic wrap, and kept overnight in the refrigerator. I'll find out how flaky and tender it is when DH cuts into it tonight. Frankly, I really don't care if it isn't flaky and tender -- it looks great! And, of course, it smells like an apple pie!

                        #13855
                        BakerAunt
                        Participant

                          For Tuesday night’s dinner, I made Pork Loin Roast with Barley, Butternut Squash, and Swiss Chard, a Cooks’ Illustrated recipe that appeared in Fall Harvest Recipes (p. 22), a collection that came out last fall. I’ve made this recipe two or three times before, and we really like it. I always use much more butternut squash and Swiss chard than the original recipe specifies, because I like a much higher proportion of vegetables to grains. The melding of flavors is phenomenal. It takes about 2 ½ hours from start to finish, and my pork roast always takes longer than the time given. In the past dinner has been late by the time I get it to the table, but tonight I nailed it. We have leftovers for the next few nights.

                          #13851

                          In reply to: Kitchen appliances

                          BakerAunt
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                            I saw that Kitchen Aid is now making ranges in "misty blue."

                            https://www.delish.com/food-news/a24271935/kitchenaid-misty-blue-range-oven/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_del&utm_medium=email&date=103018

                            I'm not interested, as I've settled on a Thermador (please, please let the contractor be ready to start soon), but I wonder if "misty blue," will end up going the way of avocado and almond appliances.

                            I'd actually prefer a white stove. Sigh.

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                            #13846
                            BakerAunt
                            Participant

                              I have a lot of oat bran, as I got a little enthusiastic last year when ordering from Bob's Red Mill. It's the one ingredient into which I've not made much of an inroad. On Tuesday morning, after looking for recipes yesterday afternoon, I baked “Apple-Oat Bran Muffins,” a recipe by Linda Greider, published by The Washington Post (Oct. 12, 1988), back when oat bran was supposed to be the miracle additive.

                              https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/food/1988/10/12/the-art-of-baking-with-oat-bran/0b3dfd14-f855-4a99-90b5-0a176968ea55/?utm_term=.70263314c448

                              As Ms. Greider points out in her accompanying article, a high proportion of oat bran usually resulted in dry baked goods, once they cooled. That’s why I’ve not baked, for a long time, an apple-date oat bran recipe that I have. She says in her article that oat bran is coarse, so it should be ground in the food processor before using. (I've seen other articles that recommend soaking it in some of the liquid for about 10 minutes before proceeding.) She also uses either chopped apple or a mashed banana to retain moisture. With one cup of oat bran and 1/4 cup whole wheat as the flours, that fruit is necessary, although she says an extra quarter cup of buttermilk can replace it.

                              I thought it would be nice to have a small muffin with my oatmeal, so I baked the recipe this morning, using an overripe banana. My only change was to use a whole egg, rather than an egg white plus a tablespoon of oil. (As I said, it’s a recipe from the 1980s when the prevailing dietary view was that eggs are bad for you.) It only uses 2 Tbs. brown sugar, but it also uses 2 Tbs. jam, and I used my homemade strawberry, lower sugar jam. I added 1/3 cup chopped walnuts. I ended up with 9 rather than 8 muffins, and I actually got more rise than the recipe indicated I would. My husband and I both had one after our oatmeal this morning, and they are good without butter. Now we need to see if they are still good at room temperature.

                              Note: They are good at room temperature. As a bonus, they have 44 mg calcium per muffin.

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                              #13839

                              In reply to: Yeasted Pumpkin Bread

                              BakerAunt
                              Participant

                                Today, I made this bread, using puree from a pumpkin that I roasted this afternoon. I used my stand mixer, and I substituted in 1 ¼ cups whole wheat flour, added 2 Tbs. flax meal, and added 2 Tbs. special dried milk. (The milk is because I’m working to get more calcium in my diet.) I used grapeseed oil rather than butter, and I weighed my ingredients. I also used table salt (so, as she specifies, I used half of the Diamond Crystal kosher salt), and I used active dry yeast, which I proofed in the puree with a bit of sugar. I found that kneading it in my Cuisinart stand mixer for 5 minutes at speed 3 was perfect. The first rise took only 55 minutes, and the second rise 45 min., even though the temperature in my house was about 70F. I did a pre-shape and waited 5 minutes before final shaping and putting the dough in the pan. I wondered about the 8x4 inch pan size, but it worked perfectly and made a beautiful, high-rising loaf.

                                Skeptic is correct that Stella Parks makes the recipe fussier than it need be. Len is correct in that the stand mixer does the job.

                                I'll add a note to this post tomorrow about taste and crumb.

                                BakerAunt
                                Participant

                                  I finally got the computer back from my husband, so I'm starting this week's thread.

                                  On Sunday, I made broth from the remains of the rotisserie chicken we had this week. I also roasted a Jarrahdale pumpkin and made puree in the food processor. The Jarrahdale is a slate blue-grey (but mine looked more of a green) pumpkin. It did give up a lot of water while roasting, but I drained the pan, and the puree is of a reasonable thickness. It has a slightly different smell from the pie pumpkins with which I usually work. The puree is a brighter orange, like that of peanut pumpkins.

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