Meatless ‘Italian Beef’
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April 28, 2021 at 10:02 pm #29751
Buona Beef, one of the chains in Chicago that features Italian Beef, has come out with a meatless version of it, using seitan, a wheat-gluten product.
It got a reasonable review from the Trib, they said it was better than several of the bland Italian Beef places they've visited. A little too salty and with too much oregano, but those aren't serious flaws.
Don't know if this link will work, and I'm dropping my Trib subscription at the end of the month because the price is tripling, but here goes:
There's a place in downtown Lincoln that is doing Italian Beef now, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. (I so seldom get to downtown anymore, especially since the Lied Center theatre productions got cancelled due to COVID-19.)April 30, 2021 at 6:30 pm #29778Joan SimpsonParticipant
I have no plans of trying fake beef.May 10, 2021 at 8:36 am #29865aaronatthedoublefParticipant
I asked my brothers about this and they just responded "why?"
Mike - did you see the "Battle of the Joshes"?May 10, 2021 at 10:47 am #29867
I saw the stories about the battle of the Joshes, before and after, sounds like they had fun. They're already talking about doing it again next year.
As to the meatless Italian Beef, there is a certain amount of technical challenge to a food chemist in producing something that looks, feels and tastes like something else. Seitan (processed wheat gluten) is something that's been around for a while, like bean paste and tofu.
The lab-grown beef is, well, just strange. I'm not convinced it is more planet-friendly than a field full of methane-producing cattle, though. But if they can grow a ribeye steak, someday they may be able to grow a replacement kidney, liver or heart.May 10, 2021 at 1:48 pm #29869JaniebakesParticipant
"But if they can grow a ribeye steak, someday they may be able to grow a replacement kidney, liver or heart."
That is an excellent point and one that I had never thought of.May 10, 2021 at 5:11 pm #29870cwcdesignParticipant
Why don't they just start with trying to make replacement organs?May 10, 2021 at 9:10 pm #29873
Did you start walking by running a marathon? Scientists call it 'standing on the shoulders of giants'.May 11, 2021 at 5:40 pm #29879cwcdesignParticipant
Good answer Mike - I’m not very patient sometimesMay 11, 2021 at 10:30 pm #29886RiversideLenParticipant
Several years ago, I tried Beyond Burgers a few times. Put on a bun with the usual fixings and it was really pretty good. I would not mistake it for real beef but it was pretty good. I think they have changed, improved, the formula since I tried it. But considering the fat content and sodium, I'm not sure it has any advantages over real beef, except of course to the cow. And with real beef, I have control over the sodium content.May 12, 2021 at 10:01 am #29887aaronatthedoublefParticipant
People have been 3D printing organs for a while. Not sure how successful it is has been for something more complex like a liver. It did work for things like heart valves. And people were cloning ears for a while but I don't think anyone has actually done that for ear replacement.
The FDA regulatory environment takes a long time to wade through. It is focused on safety not speed. But some of that is changing because sometimes, speed is better for safety.May 12, 2021 at 10:35 am #29889
My wife got a bovine valve in 2018, they said it should last 10-15 years and when they replace it they don't have to crack open her chest.
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