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  • #14080
    BakerAunt
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      On Monday morning, I adapted a recipe for Orange-Cardamom Loaves that appeared in the Bake from Scratch special issue, One Layer Cakes (p. 23) in the spring of 2017. My lime tree gifted me with an outstanding harvest, so I need lower-in-saturated-fat recipes to use it, and this one seemed a good candidate. I switched out the cardamom for nutmeg, as Mike Nolan suggested.

      Here is a link to the original recipe:

      Orange-Cardamom Loaves

      I then did what I rarely do with a cake recipe: I made a lot of changes, which is scary since I know less about what makes a great cake than I know about bread. I substituted in 1 cup barley flour, then made up the difference in weight (the recipe gives weights as well as the usual cups), which meant a total of 375g.

      The recipe calls for 500g (2 ½ cups) sugar, which seems high to me. More than once, Cass has fixed a recipe for me and explained that the weight of the sugar is too great. I cut it back to 2 cups or 400g.

      I used buttermilk in place of whole milk. I decided, since it is 1 ½ cups buttermilk to reduce 1 ½ tsp. baking powder to 1 tsp., and to substitute in ¼ tsp. baking soda—a bit more than the usual 1/8 tsp. I would normally use to replace ½ tsp. baking powder. The recipe called for 1 cup oil. I reduced it to ¾ cup.

      Finally, instead of making two 8x4-inch loaves, I decided to bake it in a Bundt pan. An online conversion chart at Epicurious suggested a 12-cup Bundt pan as the equivalent. That is the size still packed away. I worried that a 10 cup would be too small, so I used my 12-16 cup pan. I baked it for about 55 minutes, then cooled for 15 minutes. I had used THE grease. At first, it seemed stuck, but I rapped it on the rack, and it came out beautifully.

      Once it is completely cool, I will glaze it, since I have the lime juice after using the lime zest. I'll report back on taste and texture.

      The glaze came out too thin, and I did not want to add any more powdered sugar. Next time, I'll add less lime juice to get the correct consistency. I might also halve the glaze recipe. The cake is delicious, and it reminds me very much of a pound cake, even though it has no butter. I'm not sure that the nutmeg comes through that strongly. I will definitely make this adaptation again.

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      #14078
      Mike Nolan
      Keymaster

        It seems to me that the dark meat around the legs and thighs always gets done first, it's the meat on the inside of the breast (which are HUGE compared to a wild bird) that takes the longest to get fully cooked.

        #14077

        In reply to: Tiny? Turkeys

        Mike Nolan
        Keymaster

          I was talking to someone recently who lives on an acreage outside of town. A year or two back she raised two turkeys from chicks. When they had then prepared, one of them was 55 pounds--dressed.

          We see groups of wild turkeys who probably live in Wilderness Park most of the year foraging beside one of the highways just outside Lincoln from time to time, I'd hate to have one of them chasing me, they're monsters.

          I remember my grandmother getting these 25 pound birds, she'd do two of them for Thanksgiving, because she had two seatings of about 20 each for Thanksgiving dinner. (She'd cook one the day before and store it on the porch overnight, throwing it back in the oven to reheat between the two servings for dinner.)

          #14076
          RiversideLen
          Participant

            No need to thaw, I have an 11 pound fresh Butterball.

            I was thinking about spatchcocking it but I saw an ATK video and decided I'm going to try it their way. Of course, ATK does it different every year, this is this years rendition. It involves preheating the roasting pan on a baking stone at 500 degrees, put a little oil in the pan and then put the bird in it with the breast portion covered with foil. Then you drop the temp to 425 and roast it for 45 minutes, remove the foil and drop the temp to 325 to finish it (about 90 minutes for a 12 pound bird). Of course, there's a few other steps to do in prepping the bird. The idea here is to jump start the dark meat so everything gets done together.

            If anyone is interested, you can find it on youtube, or if you like, I can post a link.

            #14063
            BakerAunt
            Participant

              I had not intended for today to be a Smitten Kitchen fest, but I did not have time to make this recipe for dinner yesterday, and truth be told, after spending four hours with Microsoft to sort out why I could not view any of my Word documents, I only made it tonight because we had nothing else to eat other than this planned meal.

              This recipe, “Tomato and Gigante Bean Bake/Pizza Beans,” is from Deb Perelman’s second cookbook, Smitten Kitchen Every Day (143-144). I’m grateful that it went together fast, and dinner was only an hour late. I used large lima beans from Bob’s Red Mill, which I had cooked yesterday. I was unclear on the amount, so I cooked up 2 cups dried, and that seems to work well. I did not bother weighing the kale but grabbed a bunch and pronounced it enough. I nixed the red pepper flakes in favor of 1 tsp. Penzey’s Tuscan Seasoning. I added ¼ cup of broth from the beans to adjust the consistency. The recipe is basically a lima bean casserole with crushed tomatoes, sautéed onion, celery, carrots, and garlic. Mozzarella and Parmesan cheese go on top. We liked it, and I will make it again. It’s a good vegetarian main dish or side. It could easily accommodate ground turkey or ground beef

              #14057
              BakerAunt
              Participant

                For lunch today, I made Black Bean Pumpkin soup, from a recipe that I found at Smitten Kitchen:

                black bean pumpkin soup

                I made a few changes (why do I hear Wonky giggling in the background?):

                I used 1 pound, 8 oz. of my homemade pumpkin puree. (I'm using up that white pumpkin that I don't care for in my baked goods.

                I deleted the 1/2 cup minced shallot--(I'm not sure why shallot is used with onion, and I was not going to find them in a small town grocery store.)

                I reduced the cumin to 1 1/2 tsp. (I want to be able to taste the sherry!) I added it later, along with the pepper.

                I used 14 oz. diced tomatoes in very little juice, so I put it all in.

                I deleted the salt (There was plenty in the black beans, as I could not find low-sodium in this store, and I did not want to take the time to cook my own.)

                I used 2 Tbs. olive oil in place of the 4 Tbs. butter. (I'm saving butter for a recipe where it is essential.)

                I used 1 Tbs. of Penzey's beef base with 4 cups boiling water. (Plenty of salt in there as well.)

                I did not add diced ham or sherry vinegar. (I have neither in the house.)

                The soup is delicious--and the reduced spice is just right for me. It's a healthy soup, although somewhat high in sodium but does not taste salty. I can reduce the salt content next time by cooking my black beans from scratch. I'm looking forward to having this soup for lunches into the coming week.

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                #14051

                In reply to: Rice Bread

                BakerAunt
                Participant

                  Chocomouse--I'm pretty sure that I could decrease the butter, as I cut back on the amount in my turkey pot pie back before I needed to reduce saturated fat. Possibly, if I cut it to 4 Tbs., used less flour, and am vigilant about serving size, I would get a soup that is not as thick but still pleasing, and with a much lower amount of saturated fat.

                  I'll experiment when we do a turkey. That won't be at Thanksgiving, as we have an invitation to join friends, and with getting the house ready for the start of renovation, we find an invitation to eat Thanksgiving elsewhere a blessing. I plan to take Stella Parks' yeasted pumpkin bread (maple version) made according to her instructions for rolls. Breads I can manage.

                  #14041

                  In reply to: Rice Bread

                  BakerAunt
                  Participant

                    I've actually been thinking about a recipe that I have for Turkey Wild Rice Soup that came out of one of those Pillsbury cook booklets (#34) years ago.. The original used broth, wild rice, green onion, margarine, flour, poultry seasoning, half and half, cooked turkey, and some dried sherry. It used crumpled bacon as a garnish.

                    I made it for years, after Thanksgiving, using butter rather than margarine, and using nonfat milk. I never used the bacon garnish, as it was lovely as is. I've been trying to figure out how I can alter it to lower the saturated fat. 1/2 cup butter is not going to work with my dietary restriction. I might try it with low-fat evaporated milk and leave out the flour and butter.

                    #14040

                    In reply to: Rice Bread

                    Mike Nolan
                    Keymaster

                      Even when it's fully cooked, wild rice has a bit of a snap to it. I've made a wild rice and mushroom soup a few times, but haven't hit on the right recipe yet. (Famous Dave's had a great version, but dropped it from the menu. I haven't been back since. Zoup has a pretty good one, but all their soups are unnecessarily high in sodium, and most have garlic, so we've stopped going there.)

                      Caraway tends to be really crunchy in a baked bread, too, but rye bread without caraway isn't an option as far as I'm concerned.

                      #14016
                      BakerAunt
                      Participant

                        I saw this article reviewing different kinds of pie pans and thought it might be timely here. I would disagree with their assertion that one pie pan should do it all. I like to use ceramic for my pumpkin pie and streusel-topped apple pie, but I use a flat metal pan that has a wide rim to catch juices when I bake a blueberry or peach pie. I'm not sure that rimmed pie plate is even made anymore. My mother had them, and years ago, I bought two at a hardware store when I was in graduate school (one of those independent, carries a lot, in the neighborhood stores that no longer exist). I found another one at a garage sale and snatched it up. In addition to catching spills, the rim also supports the crimped crust.

                        Underneath the pie, I use a round pan, the size of a pizza pan, that has a 4-inch or so hole in the center. It was left in this house when I bought it, and it is great for catching spills and allowing the center of the pie to get direct heat through the hole. I bought a non-stick version from the old Chefs Catalog.

                        I'm also a proponent, when baking a pumpkin pie, of cooking the filling--without the eggs--until starting to bubble, then putting a bit of the filling in a small bowl, whisking in an egg, then whisking it into the off-the-burner filling. Whisk in the rest of the eggs, one by one, then fill the warm blind-baked crust. This technique, adapted from Cooks' Illustrated, helps the filling bake evenly in much less time.

                        https://www.foodandwine.com/cooking-techniques/baking/best-pie-dish-review?hid=0527ce5bc5a38694da803c7d5550ccbaa89b02bf&did=304070-20181115&utm_campaign=faw-the-dish_newsletter&utm_source=foodandwine.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=111518&cid=304070&mid=16239218061

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                        #14013
                        BakerAunt
                        Participant

                          On Wednesday evening, I baked a new recipe from Bob’s Red Mill: “Gluten Free Fall Harvest Apple Bread.”

                          https://www.bobsredmill.com/blog/special-diets/gluten-free-fall-harvest-apple-bread/

                          As I do not need to bake gluten-free, I substituted 1 ½ cups AP flour and ½ cup barley flour for their 1:1 gluten-free flour. I reduced the sugar from ¾ to 2/3 cup. I used buttermilk rather than regular milk, and I substituted 2 tsp. boiled cider for 1 Tbs. apple cider vinegar (it was clearly there to "sour" the milk). The recipe did not specify whether the apples should be peeled, but I did so. I used one Winesap and one small Jonathan. It baked well, and it came easily out of the pan with no falling apart. (I used THE Grease on the pan). I'll add a note tomorrow on taste and texture. The bread is very low in saturated fat, only 3.5g for the entire 9x5 loaf.

                          Promised Note: It made a tasty bread that holds together well--just don't expect to slice it thinly. The apple mixture and the cinnamon went very well together.

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                          #14012
                          BakerAunt
                          Participant

                            For Wednesday dinner, I made a variation of a recipe, Creamy Chicken and Pumpkin Rotini, that I found in America’s Best Pumpkin Recipes (p. 120), a publication of Centennial Kitchen that I found amid the cooking magazines about a month ago. This is the second recipe I’ve tried. I decided to make the pasta with sauce to go with a rotisserie chicken from the store. I altered the ingredients in that I used yellow rather than red onion, and I used my homemade pumpkin puree. I did not add salt, cinnamon or nutmeg, nor did I use a tsp. of hot pepper sauce, and I used dried sage rather than fresh. In place of ½ cup heavy whipping cream, I used low-fat evaporated milk. I used wholegrain rotini. I like the sauce, although it seems to me to need a little something more--perhaps a dash of nutmeg?. It went well with the chicken and steamed broccoli.

                            #14003
                            Mike Nolan
                            Keymaster

                              I've never actually watched it, but there's a show on cable called "Murder, She Baked".

                              There are also the Lucy Burdette "Key West Food Critic" mysteries. (I haven't read any of them yet, but was a big fan of the Emma Lathen series 30 years ago, the protagonist being a Wall Street banker.)

                              I had a dream recently in which baking played a prominent role in a series of strange events, I'm not sure if there's enough for a book length story, but I added it to my ideas folder. (I'm currently doing some outlining and background research for a novel on a different subject.)

                              #13999

                              In reply to: Yeasted Pumpkin Bread

                              BakerAunt
                              Participant

                                I decided to try the recipe with honey rather than maple syrup. The original maple recipe is wonderful on its own, or with a chicken or ham filling, but it is not what would be wanted for tuna fish or peanut butter.

                                I used 2 Tbs. honey and an extra 1 Tbs. of water. It perhaps could have used an additional tsp., but it still came out well. I increased the whole wheat flour to 1 1/2 cups (making up the rest of the weight with bread flour), increased the flax meal to 3 Tbs. and again added 2 Tbs. special dried milk. I used canola oil this time, rather than grapeseed oil.

                                The bread came out beautifully, with the same high rise. It has a stronger pumpkin flavor, but that is probably due to the white pumpkin puree I used. This loaf will work well for sandwiches with strong fillings where the maple would be lost or would clash with it.

                                #13995
                                BakerAunt
                                Participant

                                  We are beginning to clear items out of the house for a renovation that will start sometime toward the end of the month. In between, I was in the kitchen.

                                  On Monday, I made my version of a sourdough pizza crust for a large sheet pan. We had pizza Margarita, using the last of the tomatoes that have ripened. (We have other green ones brought in before the freeze that are starting to redden,) We put browned ground turkey, left over from last night, on the pizza because my husband wanted some meat on it. He did allow me to sprinkle the pizza with Penzey’s Tuscan Sunset.

                                  I also made dough for a double recipe of my Lower-Fat, Whole Wheat, Sourdough Cheese Crackers, and I fed the sourdough starter.

                                  For my final project on Monday, I am baking Stella Parks’ Yeasted Pumpkin Bread, using my stand mixer. This time, I increased the whole wheat flour to 1 ½ cups, then weighed the bread flour to make the same weight. I again added 2 Tbs. special dried milk, added 3 Tbs. flax meal, and used canola oil rather than butter, and 2 Tbs. honey in place of the maple syrup, which meant that I needed to add an additional tablespoon of water. (Note: I love the maple syrup original, but I wanted to see if I could make a variation.) It's a good evening project because it is snowing outside--heavy big, wet flakes--and it is sticking.

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