Ketogenic Diets

[aaronatthedoublef]

Congrats Mike. Glad you found something that works.

[RiversideLen]

Here's a different take on Keto friendly pizza crust, Chicharrón Pizza

Keto Friendly Pizza

[Mike Nolan]

I think I'll pass on the chicharone pizza.

[RiversideLen]

I like the fried pork skins so if I could find a Chicharrón that size I would try it. But I would build it a little different, I would lay slices of mozzarella on it first, then sauce and toppings. I want to make sure it stays crispy and crunchy.

[Joan Simpson]

Len I love pork skins but I've never seen one that big. I'd probably like it.

[BakerAunt]

Mike--I was looking at this rice/grain cooker because of the ceramic interior, but it also claims to do carb reduction if one of the inserts is used:

https://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/greenpan-premiere-rice-and-grains-maker/?cm_ite=browse_product&sfmc_subid=3408475&cm_ven=Trig&cm_cat=BrowPIP&cm_pla=WS_Browse_2_SF&cm_em=02:3C24872411486531BFBBE8CE2BF9440A4651C389AF47ACA09B4F010358F30A26&dtm_em=c2ffcf78ce760c4feca3d04b80fdc8a1&om_mid=SF3960&parent_cpn=Browse_2

While I'm not particularly interested in the carb reduction feature, I wondered if it actually works. I do not understand the science behind it.

[Mike Nolan]

I'm guessing it essentially uses steam to cook the rice, with some of the starch dripping off into the bottom of the cooker.

FWIW, recently I asked Harold McGee, author of "On Food and Cooking", how much starch (aka carbs) is removed when you boil potatoes and other vegetables. He said there's not a lot of research on it, and it depends on the surface area, so the finer you cut them up, the more starch would leach out. But in general, he said it isn't much. Rice has a relatively large surface area, though.

This research article says on average it lowers the rice from 34 grams of carbs per 100 grams of cooked rice to 27.5 grams. Not a huge reduction, but when combined with lower-carb strains of rice it might have some benefits, maybe enough to allow some rice in a modified keto diet. Probably not good enough for someone aiming to stay under 20 carbs a day, though.

It isn't clear to me whether the W-S one is a 'siphon' or a 'wash down' low-carb rice cooker as described in this article, so I asked that question in the W-S questions area, I'll let you know if I get an answer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8997980/

[Mike Nolan]

I did get an answer from W-S on the rice cooker, but it didn't say which type of low-carb rice cooker this is, it just repeated the sales literature's description of it. (I flagged it as 'not helpful'.)

I'm inclined to think it must be a 'wash-down' type, which is doesn't remove quite as many carbs as a 'siphon' type.

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