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  • #11297
    BakerAunt
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      For Saturday night's dessert, I baked "Cinnamon-Apple Bars with Peanut Butter Glaze," from KAF's Whole Grain Baking (345-346). I reduced the brown sugar from 1 1/3 cups to 1 1/8 cups, and I reduced the salt from 1 1/2 tsp. to 1/2 tsp. The top glaze is made of peanut butter and honey and is really more a frosting than a glaze. I used Jiff Peanut Butter. For eating, we always use the old-fashioned peanut butter--the kind you stir the oil back into--but most recipes do not work well with the healthy peanut butter.

      My husband and I had the same reaction: the peanut butter-honey frosting needs to be deleted. The issue with this recipe is that the peanut butter is so strong it overwhelms the applesauce-spice bars it covers. I will probably make this recipe again, and maybe even reduce the sugar to 1 cup, but instead of the peanut butter-honey frosting, I would use a light vanilla glaze that would let the applesauce and spices come to the fore.

      That peanut butter frosting might go well on assertive dark chocolate brownies.

      #11286
      BakerAunt
      Participant

        I remember someone on the KAF Baking Circle searching desperately for the perfect lemon bar. I don't think that the poster was a regular. However, I saw this article--about using fewer eggs in lemon bars (includes a recipe), and I thought that I would post the link:

        Reconstructing the Lemon Bar

        #11284
        Mike Nolan
        Keymaster

          I made Vienna bread (Clonmel Double Crusty) last night, using just 1/2 teaspoon of salt. Came out great.

          #11280
          BakerAunt
          Participant

            Thursday night, I baked bread. I started with this KAF recipe that has been on their website for a while and was recently featured in their catalog, along with the Emile Henry long baker:

            https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/bakers-grain-sourdough-bread-recipe

            I don't have Ancient Grains flour, as I tried it years ago and disliked it. (I used it up by adding just a little at a time to various bread recipes.) I also prefer butter to oil in my breads. I couldn't figure out why the recipe uses 1/2 cup of potato flour. I also did not like that the Harvest Grains do not get soaked.

            Here is what I did:

            I soaked the Harvest Grains in 1/2 cup buttermilk that I heated to boiling. I let the grains soak for several hours.

            I proofed ADY in 1/2 cup of warm water, along with a Tbs. of the honey, then added the remaining honey with the rest of the ingredients--except for the salt, the butter, and the high gluten flour. I added those after a 15 minute rest, when the other ingredients had been mixed.

            I used 1 cup unfed sourdough starter.

            For the "Ancient Grains," I used 1/2 cup dark rye, 1/4 cup barley flour. I later added 1/4 cup whole wheat flour because my sourdough starter is soupier than the KAF one, and I have found that I need to add 1/4 cup more flour for each cup of starter.

            I only used 1/4 cup of potato flour (replaced it with the barley flour).

            I used 2 Tbs. butter in place of the oil

            I reduced the salt to 1 3/4 tsp. from 2 tsp.

            I needed all the 2 1/4 cups high-gluten flour. I had to knead it on 3 for about 8 minutes.

            I baked it in the Emile Henry long baker, but I used my usual times of 10 minutes at 425, 25 minutes at 375, and 5 minutes with the lid off at 375. I had to add another 5 minutes at the end, but I was having temperature issues with my oven. (Sometimes it is 25F hotter and sometimes 50F hotter; I don't know until I look at the thermometer.)

            It does smell wonderful, so I'm looking forward to slicing it at lunch tomorrow.

            Update: It's delicious, with a soft interior, a nice crumb, and a chewy crust.

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            #11272
            Mike Nolan
            Keymaster

              A rest just after initial mixing isn't for the yeast, it's for the flour to get better hydrated and for enzymes to get started. It's similar to an autolyze (which is generally done before the yeast is added and sometimes before the salt is added as well.)

              wonky
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                I found a recipe for dinner rolls (my weakness) that I wanted to try. The recipe was pretty much the same as most other yeast recipes except this part...after kneading for 6 minutes, place in a bowl, cover, let rise til doubled in bulk, return the dough to the mixing bowl, and knead for an additional 6 minutes, let rise again until doubled in bulk. OK...I'll bite. The rolls were excellent, I will definitely make it again, but I didn't see much difference because of the additional kneading. This was an enriched dough with butter, a beaten egg, and additional sugar.

                Today, I found another recipe using the same double kneading technique. Is it just me, is this a new technique, or have I just not stumbled on it until now?

                Comments?

                #11264
                BakerAunt
                Participant

                  On Wednesday afternoon, I baked the 100% Whole Wheat Apple Cider Baked Doughnuts with Maple Glaze (KAF website). I baked them in a the small Bundt swirl pans--it made ten. I changed the recipe by reducing the sugar from 1 1/4 to just 1 cup. I also cut the salt in half, from 1 tsp. to 1/2 tsp. I used just 2 Tbs. boiled cider and reduced the vanilla from 1 1/2 tsp. to 1/2 tsp. I added 1 Tbs. flax meal.

                  I used unsweetened applesauce that I bought at Aldi's. It's nice and thick.

                  They taste very nice. I made the maple glaze. For some reason, it was very thick, even after I upped the heavy cream from 1 Tbs. to 3 Tbs. I did reduce the maple flavoring from 3/4 to 1/2 tsp. I think it is more of a spreading frosting than a glaze. It covered up the nice swirl design on the "doughnuts." However, the flavor goes nicely with the doughnut.

                  We enjoyed them as dessert tonight, and we each shamelessly ate two. It's a good thing that the weather allowed us to take a walk in the early afternoon.

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                  #11262
                  Italiancook
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                    I roasted a pork tenderloin. Thanks, Mike, for your input on this. I roasted it at 350*. I had cut it into two pieces. The thinner section was ready in 20 minutes. The thicker at 25 minutes. I want my pork so it's white, not pink, so I aimed for a temp of 165. Ended up with 169, and the meat was white and juicy. I diced the thicker section and will use it to invent (for me) Pork & Ramen Noodle Soup on Friday.

                    #11259
                    BakerAunt
                    Participant

                      Thanks, Mike. I shall take the plunge.

                      Also, New York Bakers has a wonderful blog. I lost track of time reading some of the posts.

                      I have some rye chops that I bought to bake the canapé breads from KAF (something that I have yet to do). I will need to find an additional recipes to use those up. I think that they are equivalent to cracked rye?

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                      #11252
                      BakerAunt
                      Participant

                        Mike--Stanley Ginsberg's The Rye Baker has a recipe for Westphalian Pumpernickel (336-337) Total start to finish time is 36-40 hours. It uses coarse rye meal and salt. It bakes at 300 for 40 minutes, then at 220F for 24 hours.

                        Maybe you could borrow the book from the library? He says that recipes for it abound, but by German law, it must consist of rye, water, and salt--nothing else.

                        #11249
                        Italiancook
                        Participant

                          After all the talk about buttermilk recently, I bought some. I thought I'd make a yellow cake, but that hasn't happened yet. So I checked online for buttermilk roll recipes, and yes! they're there. I was surprised that Whole Foods has a recipe online. It's for cloverleaf rolls, and rolling smooth balls of dough is not my strong point. So I used "30 Minute Buttermilk Roll Recipe" from ihearteating.com Still had to roll dough balls, but only 12. I will serve some of the rolls with Butternut Squash Soup from the freezer. The rest will go into the freezer. The rolls feel like they're light and soft inside. (It took me 60 minutes to make these. If I make them again, I think I can come in at 45 minutes. I never can make timed recipes finish in the allotted time!)

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                          #11237
                          Mike Nolan
                          Keymaster

                            The veggies might be better off at 300-350, simply because of how various temperatures affect the cooking process. (Baking has similar issues, you generally don't get the Maillard reaction below about 280 and you won't get much caramelization under about 350.)

                            There was a time when the food safety folks said that you couldn't cook ANYTHING in an oven set below 300, but with the advent of sous vide cooking and other low-temp techniques, I haven't heard that much lately.

                            #11235
                            Mike Nolan
                            Keymaster

                              I did about a 2.5 pound top round roast a couple of weeks ago, using the same technique I use for eye of round, starting it at 500 degrees for 7 minutes/pound then dropping the temperature setting to about 150 and essentially letting it coast for a few hours. (The original instructions say to turn the oven OFF and let it coast for 3 hours, but I find it cools off too much that way.)

                              It got done in under 2 hours, which was a good hour before I had dinner planned. I kept it at 150 until we were ready for dinner, but that dried the surface out a bit too much. I think if I was doing it again, I'd skip the time at 500, do the first hour at 250, and allow about 2 hours start to finish.

                              #11234
                              BakerAunt
                              Participant

                                I have a 1.87 pound top round roast. I've told my husband that I am not going to do this one as pot roast. (You may recall that he won't let me buy a chuck roast because of the fat.) I've been scouring the internet for recipes. While some recipes imply it can be braised, most say that it should be roasted. I am thinking of roasting it on top of small yellow potatoes and carrots, after rubbing it with seasoning. There are some disagreements about temperature and time, and almost no one is doing such a small roast. I'm thinking perhaps at 400F for about an hour? I had read to multiply the weight by 30 minutes for medium well done.

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                                #11230

                                In reply to: What, NO Buttermilk?!

                                Mike Nolan
                                Keymaster

                                  I used about 2/3 of what I had when I made banana muffins the other day, so I replenished it. Seems like this time it got a bit thicker, but I left the container sitting by the stove while I was making the muffins, so it was in a somewhat warmer place than the first time.

                                  Followup: I checked my buttermilk today (Monday) and it's nice and thick.

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