Antacid in pizza dough?

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  • #6440
    Mike Nolan
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      Interesting article in the Wall Street Journal about using a European antacid product in indian baking and pizza dough. (Basically it's baking soda and citric acid.)

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      #6444
      aaronatthedoublef
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        So this explains why it is popular and useful in Indian food which often has turmeric.

        But pizza dough? St. Louis has pizza dough that uses baking soda as the leavening agent but what would this add to a yeast based dough? Especially if that dough is not very acidic.

        #6446
        Mike Nolan
        Keymaster

          If you didn't age the dough a long time, the baking soda might provide some rise.

          Has anyone seen a pizza crust recipe with double acting baking powder in it?

          #6449
          aaronatthedoublef
          Participant

            Okay... so I was wrong... St. Louis pizza dough has baking powder not baking soda as the leavener. No yeast. So aging the dough wouldn't do anything for flavor. The KAF recipe is here.

            It uses self-rising flour which has baking powder but it doesn't say if it is double acting or not. I was buying baking powder at the store and none of the brands listed themselves as double acting even though most had baking soda in them.

            Here is another recipe. It uses flour and baking powder but no specification about the type.

            #6452
            Mike Nolan
            Keymaster

              There are enzymes present that might improve flavor by aging even in an unyeasted pizza dough.

              #6459
              RiversideLen
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                Cook's Country did St Louis style pizza a few years ago. I don't recall if they specified double acting baking powder or not. It's almost a cracker style crust and comes together real fast. I've made it and used double acting baking powder because that is what I have. It's something to keep in mind when you need a pizza but don't have a lot of time.

                I found the recipe St Louis Style Pizza here. It doesn't specify double acting or single action baking powder.

                #6480
                aaronatthedoublef
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                  Len, did you make this recipe? Did you use Provel cheese? I cannot find it locally and can only order it. It's kind of expensive and is a big block which is a little risky without knowing if my family would like it.

                  I added a little bit of provolone to the mozzarella on one pizza last Saturday and upset EVERYONE except the guy making the pizzas. πŸ™‚

                  #6486
                  Mike Nolan
                  Keymaster

                    I generally use whole-milk mozzarella on pizza and lasagna, but I do like to add a sprinkle of a four-cheese blend I get at Sams Club that has Romano, Parmesan, Asiago and Provolone. My mother used to say that a pizza without some Romano cheese on it is boring.

                    #6487
                    aaronatthedoublef
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                      I'm with you Mike. I like a mixture but my family does not necessarily agree. Sometimes my wife likes some chevre with the mozzarella but that's about it. The boys might complain but they usually eat so fast I doubt they can taste it. Some days my little girl is picky and some days she isn't. I never know what she'll like on any given day.

                      But I wanted Provel for the St. Louis pizza. I can get it from Amazon but it's still five pounds of cheese I don't know if anyone will like.

                      #6494
                      RiversideLen
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                        Aaron, I've made the crust but not the rest of the recipe. I use my own sauce (usually just pasta sauce from a jar) and usually mozzarella but I often like to mix mozzarella with Mexican Queso. The Queso is a great melter and adds a little more flavor to the pie.

                        Cook's Country had a work around for the Provel which is listed in the recipe on the link I provided. I didn't try it and I'm not familiar with Provel. My interest in the recipe is the crust.

                        #6496
                        BakerAunt
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                          I had to google Provel to find out what it is: a combination of provolone, mozzarella, and swiss cheese that has a low melting point, and bites off cleanly. It's mostly sold in Saint Louis area.

                          Hey, part of the fun is having the gooey, stringy cheese while eating pizza!

                          #6497
                          aaronatthedoublef
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                            I can't find it anywhere in CT. It might be in Boston or New York. I can definitely order it from Amazon which is probably what I'll do so I can have for Super Bowl Sunday.

                            #6498
                            RiversideLen
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                              I saw it on Amazon too. My question is, doesn't it need refridgeration?

                              #6499
                              Mike Nolan
                              Keymaster

                                Maybe it's like Velveeta or the Kraft jar cheeses, no refrigeration needed until it's opened.

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