Skeptic--Thanks for reminding me of that Jane Brody recipe. It was a favorite years ago when I was in my early days of bread baking. That was probably back when I still used the Halloween pumpkin as a baking pumpkin. After seeing your comments, I am making a note to try the recipe again, but only after the weather cools down. Breads with pumpkin in them tend to mold fast in warmer weather.
I do not think with that much whole wheat flour that you would get a high rise. The Ginsberg bread is not a particularly high-rising loaf (whole wheat and rye) either.
I note that she says "whole-grain rye flour." In my notes from years ago, I used 2 cups dark and 1 cup light rye flour. I might try pumpernickel when I work with this recipe again. I also note that I added 2 Tbs. vital wheat gluten, but that is probably because KAF was pushing it, and in those days, I was more trusting or gullible, take your pick. These days, I would probably use some bread flour and substitute in some whole wheat or white whole wheat flour. I would also cut back the yeast a bit, and I would reduce the molasses to 1/3 cup to start. I would replace the 1/4 cup of butter with 3-4 Tbs. of oil (when this book came out, no one thought twice about butter or margarine), and I would use buttermilk.
Now that I have a plan, I need to wait at least two months before I try it!
I also have a note that I liked her Pumpkin Wheat Bread, although I ranked it a "very good" rather than the "excellent" I gave the pumpkin rye. I will have to try that one again as well.
Thanks again for your discussion here. I look forward to revisiting these recipes.
