[aaronatthedoublef]

Mike - thanks.

You have "package size" and its value is 1. I guess I thought it was one pound but looking at the cell now I realize it isn't.

I have my eggs at 47 grams which is a bit shy of 2oz.

[aaronatthedoublef]

Mike - I'm wondering about some of your measurements in your recipe.

You make 24oz loaves to bake down to 16. I've been making 18oz loaves to get 16.

How many oz per egg do you use?

Thanks

[aaronatthedoublef]

I had a love-hate relationship with Consumer Reports going back to my days at Microsoft in 90s.

They published a horrible review of the Isuzu Trooper citing it tendency to roll.

A bunch of us owned Troopers and some of my co-workers began digging into to Transportation Department testing and reports as well as insurance claims and Troopers had almost zero rollovers. This led to a great deal of correspondence between my friends and CR. I've always been a little skeptical since then.

[aaronatthedoublef]

BA, your pizza dough sounds interesting. I've always used lean doughs but I wonder if adding a little olive oil in the mix might make it even crisper.

I made a modified KAF crumb coffee cake. I only used 2/3s of the crumb top. I think I might start the bake and then add the topping five minutes in rather than when I start it.

[aaronatthedoublef]

There are actually a lot of good, gluten free recipes out there. If you look for Passover recipes you'll find many that use almond flour and potato starch (corn is forbidden to some). There are a bunch with matzah meal too but I just bought a new cookbook with an almond layer cake recipe that looks like a regular flour layer cake. I made cookies for Yom Kippur that are all almond flour and egg whites and confectioners sugar.

[aaronatthedoublef]

It seems like it is almost impossible to exactly match the taste of a cherished family dish. It can be for numerous reasons some of which can be remedied by matching ingredients and some of which can never be duplicated - like your mom having a batch of your favorite cookies waiting for you whenever you come for a visit.

After trying to duplicate my mom's cookies numerous times, I watched her make a batch. She had a lit cigarette in her mouth the entire time from mixing to putting them on the sheet pan to taking them from the oven to cool.

After that I realized I might come close to my mom but nothing would ever taste like her's.

Or as my brother put "nothing like a little Kent micronite filter for flavor."

[aaronatthedoublef]

I haven't made pepperoni in a long time. I make sausage pizza the Chicago way - uncooked on top of the cheese. It does make the pizza greasier.

For dough handling it helps if the dough starts out round. This sounds obvious but it wasn't to me. Lately I've changed from dough balls to disks. They are better at keeping their shape in the freezer and my first step was to flatten the balls into disks anyway.

My dough is easier to work with if it is chilled so I defrost it and leave it in the refrigerator.

These days as I am trying to approximate a Chicago thin-crust I've begun to roll out my dough 12-24 hours in advance, place on semolina on parchment, dock it, and put it in the refrigerator.

This works well for creating a thin, mostly crisp crust. It does not on the veggie pizza because there is just too much water in the vegetables. Kate does not like them pre-cooked before they go on the pizza. I may experiment with putting them on part way through.

I put the pizza on directly onto the stone in the middle of the oven then shift it onto a cooling rack on the top of the oven to finish. So I am thinking that may be the time to add the veggies.

Each pizza starts with about 180g of dough and I roll it out to about 11 inches with my rolling ruler.

[aaronatthedoublef]

Hi Len,

How thin is your pizza? What is your process?

[aaronatthedoublef]

Great pizza Len. How much dough do you use for one.

[aaronatthedoublef]

Thanks. I have a bag of first clear from King Arthur but it is too expensive for more than the occasional loaf of bread. And BA and Choco, you're right about rye. I've made my deli rye with all bread and with bread/first clear and to come close to what I remember from my youth in Chicago I have to use first clear.

I'll keep looking for another source.

[aaronatthedoublef]

I made ciabatta rolls. Not sure what else I'll make this week,

[aaronatthedoublef]

Mike - My email is unstuck! Thanks

I don't know any laws - Jewish or civil - that says that challah must be baked by Jews. That may be different in Nebraska but not here. I worked in a bakery where the owner was Jewish but none of the bakers were until I started apprenticing there. They made challah every Thu/Fri overnight.

Now kosher is something different. It requires constant supervision of you, your recipe, your techniques, and your kitchen. For example, one of the reasons I originally switched to boiled cider was to keep cider taste but reduce the amount vs the rest of the liquid. If too much juice is used in relation to the rest of the liquids then it is cake not bread.

You would need a representative from koshering authority constantly in your kitchen. But anyone can make challah.

[aaronatthedoublef]

BA - where do you buy first clear flour?

[aaronatthedoublef]

CT stopped our orchards from picking apples off the ground and pressing them.

But it's still legal in MA and NY so we have apple cider from those states that is less expensive.

All it did was make CT apple cider more expensive and annoy local growers.

But we still have plenty around.

[aaronatthedoublef]

Mike,

Did you try my recipe. I love your spreadsheet. It turns out my challah is much less expensive than I thought. Thanks again!

Also, I haven't noted it in my recipe yet but right now I am using boiled cider. I am boiling my own and I boil about 1/3 of it away. I like the flavor better. I boil my own not because it will save money but because I can experiment with different ciders to see which works best. If I buy it from KAB (the only place I have seen it) I am limited to what they sell. We have so many small farms selling cider and they are not all the same. On Rosh Hashanah we went apple picking at a new place and I really like this orchard. But they're cider is a little weak so I can by from the other place I drive by every week on my volunteer day.

They've started to also make cider from apple mixes or specific apples. So I can buy apple cider, gala cider, or honey crisp cider. The honey crisp carries a higher price and I am not sure it is worth it.

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