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Thanks, Mike and Wonky.
Bernard Clayton does not give weights--no one did back then. I'll list the ingredients:
2 1/2 Cups water
1/3 nonfat dry milk (I'll probably replace with a cup of buttermilk, and reduce water to 1 1/2 Cups)
1/4 Cup molasses
1 Tbs. salt
1/2 Cup wheat germ
1/2 Cup buckwheat flour
2 pkgs. yeast
2 Tbs. shortening (I'll probably use butter)
1 Cup rye flour
3 Cups whole wheat flour
1 to 1 1/2 Cups bread or AP flour.My mixer is listed at 1000 Watts. It does have an automatic shut-off, but I've never had it do so. I've done some three loaves recipes in it: Grandma A's Ranch Hand Bread (with about 60% whole wheat and additional flax meal) and Marilyn's Oatmeal Bread (KAF) with 2 cups whole wheat flour substituted.
I usually proof the yeast, mix the liquid ingredients, and then mix in the whole grains with the paddle. I do a rest period of 15-20 minutes before switching to the dough hook and adding the white flour with the salt. I adopted that technique after making the Grandma A's bread, and it seems to help the mixer incorporate all the flour more easily, and it gives the whole grains a chance to hydrate, so that I do not add too much additional flour.
I have found that when making bread dough with my mixer, I initially need to stop it and use the dough scraper to turn the dough over to make sure all the flour gets incorporated, but that does not seem unusual to me.
Bernard Clayton adds the salt with the yeast mixture. I usually hold it back and add it in with whatever white flour I'm using. I'll probably do that here.
I'll likely try this recipe, which makes two loaves, on Friday or Saturday, by which time we should be finishing up the last loaf I baked.
This morning I'm baking the Whole Wheat Sourdough Cheese Crackers (recipe on this site) from the double recipe of dough I made up last week. With my baking production of various kind of crackers, we have stopped buying them at the grocery store.
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Monday night's dinner was one of my stir-together dinners. I started with chopped orange bell pepper and sliced mushrooms, which I sautéed in grapeseed oil. I cut the rest of the chicken into small pieces and added it, then broccoli florets. I had frozen the drippings from about ten days ago, when we had roast chicken legs with maple syrup and sweet potatoes. I skimmed off the fat and added it to the vegetables. I cooked soba noodles and tossed them with the meat and vegetables. I added sliced green onion right before serving.
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I look forward to your experiments, Mike.
My Honey Spelt Sourdough Bread came out somewhat dry, so a lack of humidity may have been a factor. The taste is good.
I've roasted a lot of chickens over the years, beginning in graduate school and thereafter, until I married my husband who prides himself on his chicken roasting, which is not quite what I prefer. A 4-5 pound chicken would last me for the week. I'd eat it with sides for a couple of days, then cut it up and make some kind of a chicken dish--casserole or chicken over rice, chicken with pasta or soup--and I'd boil up the bones to make broth. In those days, they would also give us the "innards," and I would cook those up separately in a small pot and add that broth to the other broth.
With two of us, the chicken does not last that long, but I still reserve the bones--usually until I have several chickens or else those from a turkey--and make broth. Whole chickens were very inexpensive. Up until a couple of years ago, I would buy a couple when they were on sale for 50 cents a pound. It was more like 69 cents a pound on sale when we left Texas last year. Here, I don't think that I've seen under 99 cents a pound for a whole chicken. However, whole chicken legs or quarters are often 49 cents a pound on sale.
I use, and would still use, the Betty Crocker's Cookbook; my mother gave me the 1978 edition for Christmas that year. It included a table that said to roast a 3-4 pound (unstuffed) chicken at 375F for 1 hour 45 minutes to two hours and 15 minutes. I roasted it that way for years in a square oven baking dish. I've tried other recipes. A wild-rice with cherry stuffed chicken from Bon Appetit never cooked properly (that one was somewhat raw), although I tried the recipe twice, so I gave up on it.
I checked the Betty Crocker cookbook for a chicken roasted with vegetables, but it does not have such a recipe. I went online and looked at various ones, and what I did this time reflects one from a blog. (I think it is called Seven Spatulas.) A lot of recipes were "fussy," like the one where the chicken is cooked on top of the vegetables, which are then finished on top of the stove--no problem there--but it then wanted the chicken, after sitting out for 30 minutes to go back into the oven on a half-sheet pan at high temperature for browning. That seemed more trouble than it was worth.
I roasted a small chicken, not quite 4 pounds. I used a 9x13 ceramic dish (sprayed with Pam) and put a layer of small potatoes, cut in half, and baby carrots in the bottom. I rubbed them with a bit of olive oil and sprinkled a bit of salt and pepper, as well as some thyme and rosemary on them. I put the chicken on top. Following some internet recipes, I roasted it at 475F for 25 minutes, then 400F for 45. Next time, I'll start the chicken upside down, then turn it over so that the bottom gets browned. This time, I turned it over at the end for 5 minutes or so. The chicken tested done, so I put it on a platter to rest, covered, for 15 minutes. I stirred the vegetables and put them back in the oven for another 10-15 minutes. They were delicious. We had steamed green beans on the side, as the market had them for $1.29 a pound--much cheaper than broccoli, which was $1.05 more per pound.
My husband usually does the chickens, and he does it at a lower temperature for longer. It just does not get the browning, and IMHO the taste. The chicken I roasted did, but he worried about a little pinkness, (It tested done.) The meat was falling off the drumsticks. I told him he could do the next chicken, but I'm going to keep looking at recipes--especially those that let me cook a side vegetable or two at the same time.
This particular chicken was not one of those vacu-sealed in a tight wrapper, but was a flatter one wrapped on a meat tray. It did not seem to have as much liquid as the ones in those tight wrappers, but then those have been frozen.
So, how do other posters roast their chicken?
On Saturday, I baked the Honey Spelt Sourdough Bread, from the KAF website, in my Emile Henry long baker. I had some issues with rising, probably because the house was cool today but not cool enough to start a fire in the woodstove before evening. I don't think that I got as much rise as when I first baked it last fall. (I am now threatening to buy a bread proofer.) It should still make nice sandwiches.
On Friday, I have been busy in the kitchen. I fed my sourdough starter and used the discard to make a double recipe of the dough for my Whole Wheat Sourdough Cheese Crackers (recipe on this site). I'll bake them in a couple of days, since I think that they are better when the dough rests in the refrigerator for a couple of days.
I also baked Butterscotch Apple Sweet Rolls, a recipe from Sift (Fall 2015), p. 40, which is also on the KAF website. I first baked it at the end of November. I still had enough Jonathan apples in the refrigerator from fall to make the recipe again. This time, I used half white whole wheat flour and 1/4 cup of flax meal. As before, I used the special gold yeast. I'll glaze them tomorrow morning, and we will have several mornings of nice breakfasts. [Note: This recipe kneads beautifully on the dough cycle in the bread machine, which gives you a chance to start making the filling, so that it will be cool by the time the first rise is finished.]
My final project was to make the levain for the recipe for Honey Spelt Sourdough Bread, another recipe that I first tried last fall. It's on the KAF website and was also in one of their fall catalogs. I'll bake it tomorrow.
Happy belated birthday, Joan! Be sure to spend at least a week celebrating!
Tonight I made one of my stir-together dinners using a leftover pork chop from the three my husband cooked last night. I sautéed chopped yellow bell pepper and sliced mushrooms in a little grapeseed oil, then added the chopped pork, then the leftover mixed rice from last night, then the drippings from deglazing the pork skillet last night (used a bit of white wine and water). I added some frozen broccoli that I had briefly microwaved and a few dashes of low-sodium soy sauce. After removing from the heat, I sprinkled it with sliced green onion.
For Wednesday's dinner, I made salmon with dill and couscous, paired with green beans (from frozen packet in freezer).
A spectacular save, Navlys! I'll also start paying more attention to how beef is labeled.
Ginsberg says part of it was practical--a way to "recycle" unsold bread. He says that some countries have laws limiting the amount of old bread that bakers can use in dough. He does say that "chemically the gelatinized starches that make up the bulk of stale bread bind water far more effectively than raw flour, tightening the crumb of the finished loaves and reducing the notorious tendency of some rye breads to crumple at the slightest touch" (p. 46). He seems to suggest that any type of bread can be used, since the amount (no more than 10%) is small enough not to affect taste.
I've checked Ginsberg's book, and he does not use coffee. He does have some recipes that call for stale rye bread.
Tuesday morning I made a batch of my Cherry Granola (recipe on this site). Most of the last batch that I made for our Florida trip was eaten by my (I don't eat coconut) husband. Go figure.
In the afternoon, I again baked the Salty Rye Rolls (Sigteboller) from Stanley Ginsberg's The Rye Baker, which I first tried a couple of weeks ago. Mine do not seem as dark as the ones in the picture, and I don't think that it is a matter of baking them longer. I'm wondering if KAF's medium rye flour is not quite the same as the medium rye flour he has. I was able to slash these with my lame, but I'm still having trouble getting a deep enough slash of 1/4 to 1/2 inch. They still smell delicious and will go well with leftover soup tonight and as small sandwich buns.
Wow, Mike! That was a marathon kitchen session!
I have a new recipe baking in the oven, Applesauce Oatmeal Bread, from the KAF website. It's a quick bread. I decided to try reducing the sugar by 2 Tbs. I also cut the salt in half. I added 1 Tbs. flax meal, and I used regular whole wheat rather than white whole wheat flour. I chose to use the boiled cider instead of vanilla. I used pecans instead of walnuts, and I added 1/2 cup of Bob's Red Mill dried apple pieces. I'll report tomorrow on its taste, as quick breads are always better the day after they have baked.
Added Note: The Applesauce Oatmeal Bread, with the changes I made, is delicious.
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