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On Saturday afternoon, I tried the Deli Rye Rolls recipe from the Holiday 2019 issue of Sift, using the Zo bread machine for the kneading. The recipe is also on the KAF website, although it uses vital wheat gluten and the one in the magazine does not. Also, the recipe online says deli rye flavor OR onion powder. I wish that I had looked before I baked:
https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/deli-rye-rolls-recipe
I made a couple of changes to the recipe. I wanted to use up some First Clear Flour, so I used about 2 cups of it, and finished off the 2 ½ cups with AP flour. I also substituted in ¾ cup buttermilk and reduced the salt from 1 ½ to 1 tsp.. The Zo did a good job with the slightly sticky dough. I moved it to a 2-quart oiled dough bucket for the first rise. I shaped the dough as 12 rolls and baked in a 9x9-inch square pan. The recipe said 15-20 minutes. The rolls needed 20 minutes to get to 195 (recipe said 190), and I baked them an additional two minutes.
We sampled them for dinner tonight. The recipe had called for 3 Tbs. dried minced onion and 2 tsp. onion powder. I used Penzey’s roasted onion powder. My husband and I both concluded that the onion taste in the rolls is so strong that it overwhelms the rye, which is disappointing. If I were to bake this recipe again, I would, at the least, omit the onion powder, and I would replace it with the deli rye flavor.
I did omit the topping, and I did make changes to the recipe, but I doubt that in the end my changes altered it significantly. I have a couple better rye roll recipes, so I will not bake this one again.
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BakerAunt.
November 23, 2019 at 4:32 pm in reply to: What are you cooking the week of November 17, 2019? #19436The place where I bought my lovely wooden pastry wands appears to be out of business. I went to pastrywands.com and it said "shop closed. I bought them around 2014, and I recall that it was a family company. If you google pastry wands, you can see pictures of the wooden ones I bought. I have four thicknesses: 1/16, 1/8, 3/16, and 1/4. I think that for a while KAF was selling its own with an imprint. There are also plastic ones available from Rose LB of baking book fame. In 2014, I found the reference to the company that made my wooden ones on her blog, and that was how I came to buy them. You can just find wood strips that are the thicknesses you use most often.
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BakerAunt.
I answered correctly. I remember reading about a character making lemon marmalade in a P.D. James mystery, so I owe my correct answer to that description.
November 22, 2019 at 8:02 pm in reply to: What are you cooking the week of November 17, 2019? #19421Italian Cook--It's like this one from Joseph Joseph:
https://www.josephjoseph.com/en-us/adjustable-rolling-pin
I have one of these, which was my main rolling pin when our now home was our vacation home, and I had liked it for rolling out cookie dough. It is a bit tricky with a pie crust because you must be careful not to roll the rings onto the dough, but it can be done. I would certainly take it with me if I needed a rolling pin when traveling.
When I first bought the rolling pin, they only had three sizes of rings (in metric measurement, as they are a Canadian company), but then added the size that would be useful for dough. I wrote to the company and asked if I could buy the new ring size for my rolling pin. The wonderful marketing person sent me the new ring size for free. That is great customer service.
These days, I mostly use my "wands"--strips of wood in the proper size and roll the dough out to the proper thickness, which was 1/16th inch for the crackers I baked today. The wands are certainly more versatile, as long as you have a longer pin, Mine is a long cylinder--no tapering.
Could it also be that there was too much leavening? If a recipe already contains baking soda, I usually don't add extra if I'm subbing in buttermilk. I remember Cass discussing baking powder and baking soda on the KAF baking circle, but that particular thread of baking wisdom probably didn't make it to this site, as we were so focused on saving as much information and as many recipes as we could, and we couldn't get it all in the short time that King Arthur allowed us before shutting it down.
On Friday afternoon, I baked my Whole Wheat Sourdough Cheese Crackers from the dough I made up last week. I’m getting quick at rolling the dough into a rectangle, brushing it with grapeseed oil, using a pizza cutter to make squares roughly 3x3 cm, pricking the squares, sprinkling with salt, then baking. I started at 3:50 and took the last tray out of the oven about 70 minutes later. It’s a good thing that I’m getting faster, based on the rate at which my husband consumes them. 😊
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BakerAunt.
November 22, 2019 at 10:13 am in reply to: Notes Toward an Oil-Based Rolled Cookie-Cutter Cookie #19408Thanks, Italian Cook, I'll keep the recipe in mind.
I have decided that I will bake a half recipe of Pfeffernusse this holiday season. It uses less butter than a sugar cookie, and they keep a long time. I'll have to see if I have any non-melting sugar. If not, I'll need to order from KAF. I do have a supply of citron and almonds.
I don't have Clayton's Breads of France, but I have both editions of his Complete Book of Breads, as well as his book on little breads, his pie baking book (where my streusel apple pie recipe came from), AND his soup cookbook. I initially bought them because 1) I was interested in baking, and 2 I had joined a book club in order to get a good price on the Oxford English Dictionary with magnifying glass (remember those? I still have mine), and I needed to buy four or five additional books before I could resign from the club.
With the bread books, the amount of yeast must be reduced at bit, and mixers are now more powerful, but Clayton has some excellent recipes.
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BakerAunt.
I usually add 1/4 tsp. baking soda for every 1 cup of buttermilk. However, I also reduce the baking powder because 1/4 tsp. baking soda is equivalent to the rising action of 1 tsp. baking powder.
As you are not using baking powder, perhaps an additional 1/4 tsp. baking soda would solve the issue?
I had a 50-50 chance, as I've never heard of either. I guessed the wrong one.
November 21, 2019 at 9:23 pm in reply to: What are you cooking the week of November 17, 2019? #19388I always rolled my tortilla by hand. I've made some flat breads as well from KAF recipes. I found that the little rolling pin that came with a ravioli pan I bought is perfect for rolling out the small circles for tortillas and flatbreads. Note: I've yet to use the ravioli pan that came with it!
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That would be a great book, Mike. I'd buy it. 🙂
I play around with the idea of a low-saturated fat baking book that would have recipes that people might actually want to bake and eat. I'm slowly building up a repertoire by adapting recipes. It seems that most recipes are "low fat," which cuts out healthy fats. Such recipes also seem to favor "the numbers" over taste and texture, which are important.
November 21, 2019 at 5:46 pm in reply to: What are you cooking the week of November 17, 2019? #19381I used to make tortillas, but I never could get them as thin as the ones in the store. If you are interested, Mike, I'll look for the recipe, which probably came out of the L.A. Times food section many years ago.
For dinner on Thursday, I made my Spaghetti Squash-Turkey Casserole, a recipe that I adapted last year from the internet. It’s rather like a lasagna, only with spaghetti squash instead of noodles, and the cheese just on top.
On Thursday, I baked a new recipe, “Whole Wheat Apple Muffins,” which appeared on p. 24 in the Fall 2019 issue of Sift. I made some changes, as most of the King Arthur Flour muffin recipes are more cupcakes than what I consider muffins. I replaced ½ cup butter with ¼ cup of oil. While I usually use 1/3 cup of oil to ½ cup butter, most muffins are too oily, and this one uses 1 cup of applesauce as well as fresh apple, I knew they would be moist with the lesser amount of oil. I reduced the brown sugar from ¾ to ½ cup, and I cut the salt in half. I added ¼ cup Bob’s Red Mill milk powder and 2 Tbs. flax meal. I increased the fresh apple from ½ to 1 cup and used a Jonathan. I omitted the raisins and reduced the walnuts to 1/3 cup. I sprinkled with cinnamon sugar and some autumn colors decorator sugar. I baked it as six large muffins rather than twelve small ones, in lightly sprayed muffin papers on the middle shelf of my oven for 30 minutes. I had one with my tea at lunch, and my husband also had one with tea. We both like them.
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BakerAunt.
I was able to guess the correct answer.
November 20, 2019 at 10:19 pm in reply to: Notes Toward an Oil-Based Rolled Cookie-Cutter Cookie #19362According to the container of Crisco, a tablespoon contains 3.5 g saturated fat, which is half the saturated fat of a tablespoon of butter. I hesitate to use Crisco for baking, although I will use it to grease pans and to make up The Grease, because I recall how people were pushed for years to use margarine rather than butter, before it was discovered that margarine is worse than butter. I've seen some Mayo clinic recipes that call for a "non-transfat margarine," but I'm not sure that is the answer.
I have made oil-based chocolate chip cookies, but the chips are their own saturated fat problem. I've used them sparingly, which prompted my husband to call such cookies "unsatisfying" due to the scarcity of chips. He was spoiled by the oatmeal-chocolate chip ones I always baked.
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