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October 14, 2024 at 11:10 am #44273
I'm setting up a deep water culture (DWC) hydroponics system to see if I can grow tomatoes indoors over the winter.
Still working on setup (two Italian Heirloom seedlings have been started in peat pots, still waiting for Better Bush seeds in the mail for the other two pots.) Haven't hung the grow lights yet, but I have the basic structure set up. (See photo below.) I'm going to train them to a trellis that I haven't hung yet.
My goal is to have the seedlings transferred to the DWC buckets by mid-November, and if it works I could have tomatoes ready to pick in late January.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.November 1, 2024 at 12:19 pm #44510I have the first two tomato plants, either Italian Hierloom or Defiance (I'm not sure which, though I'm about 80% sure they're Defiance), in the DWC hydroponics system. I think I finally got one Celebrity and one Better Bush to sprout, but it'll be a couple of weeks before they've got enough roots to be moved to the hydroponics system.
Hopefully I've got the pH and nutrients in proper ratios and appropriate schedules set up for the drip irrigation and grow lights. If not, I may have to start more seedlings.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.November 1, 2024 at 12:48 pm #44515Looks good Mike.
November 3, 2024 at 7:11 am #44544Are these bush type tomatoes or the bigger ones? I once heard about keeping tomatoes for several years in a greenhouse. The tomatoes were supported by ropes and every so often they would lower the ropes so the old stems would lay on the ground and the younger parts could continue to grow without hitting on the roof. I never saw this in person, or even had good pictures but it seemed so funny to have tomatoes trying to grow to the top.
November 3, 2024 at 10:01 am #44547Defiance (which I'm pretty sure is what the first two plants are, as the Defiance package has been opened and I didn't order it until mid-September) and Better Bush are both determinates that get about 3 feet tall, Celebrity is classified as a semideterminate, it can get 6-8 feet tall but I've grown it several times in the garden and it seldom gets above the top of my 5 foot tall cages. My setup should handle plants up to about 4 feet tall, I've got a metal rod in each grow bucket and will use garden clips to hold the plants upright. The timer that controls the drip irrigation pump also has a reciprocating fan plugged into it, so that should help with pollination.
The hydroponics professor at Nebraska-Lincoln has grown tomato plants that reach about 30 feet long, 10 feet vertically and 20 feet along the floor, with stems about as thick as a broomstick. He gets about a year's worth of yield from them, pruning off the older branches after they've stopped flowering. He uses a variety developed for hydroponic gardening, he told me the seeds cost $1 each from Johnny's.
The annual open house for the fall hydroponics class is coming up the week before Thanksgiving, I'll see if I can get some photos to post. In the past he's had students that did both Kratky and Nutrient Film systems, though gravel feed ones seem more popular. (The students do them with PVC rain gutters.)
November 3, 2024 at 3:09 pm #44551Thank you. I look forward to seeing the pictures. Why doesn't he keep the tomatoes growing longer? I read that Tomatoes would be perenials in warm climates.
November 3, 2024 at 3:57 pm #44552It may be that he starts a new round of tomatoes because this is a teaching lab, not a hydroponics farm.
November 3, 2024 at 5:21 pm #44559Here's what the tomato plants look like 2 days after being moved to the grow buckets. Looking good so far.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.November 5, 2024 at 9:33 am #44571Ok I'm impressed!
November 5, 2024 at 12:19 pm #44573The taller one on the right appears to have grown about a half-inch in the last day. I'm hoping to transplant another tomato over the weekend, and the 4th in another week or two.
The real challenge will be to see if I can get them to the fruiting/vegetative stage and actually get tomatoes from them, hopefully some time in January. There are a lot of things that can go wrong between now and then. I've got water quality monitoring in place and have been tracking pH (mainly) which is running high, despite adding citric acid several times I've also got the beginnings of an algae problem, so I'm setting up a UV sanitizer on the drip lines to see if that gets the algae under control.
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